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That is some bad luck alright. I’ve heard of them being bad right out of the box. Glad it’s fixed.


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Bow_Tied wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:56 pm Long story on our Xterra running hot, finally solved.

Roll tape back to winter 2022. The truck was putting out little to no heat. Some at idle, went away as one started driving on a cold day. Classic tstat stuck open. Being winter and terribly busy, we dropped it off at Nissan dealer in town for a new tstat. Fixed the issue just fine, lots of heat.

Roll tape forward to spring of 2022. Noticed a constant fan noise. First thought it was a failed clutch fan. Further investigation determined the mechanical fan was fine; however, the e-fan was on constantly after the truck warmed up. This fan should not come on unless coolant is 98°C+ but gauge was showing usual just below middle of the road. Flushing mud out of the rad/condenser and other checks did not yield any change. Changed the rad. No change to temps. Changed the temp sensor, no change. Head scratching. Considered that I got a bad tstat from the dealer and bought another from Partsource, a Motorad brand. Tore it all apart yet again. The tstat removed turned out to be also a Motorad that the dealer had installed! Whatever, how could two be bad, so I put the new one in and buttoned it back up. No change!!

Some time went by as the summer was wasting away and I had a lot of other things to get done, truck drove great as always, but ran hot, so we limited it largely to in town trips. Trusty old scan gauge II showed the temp was as high as 110 or 112 which is way too warm. So, what is it... water pumps either work or don't and everything else is new. ECM? Warm weather here again and before I go drastic, I thought I'd give a 3rd tstat a shot. Finally went and got a Nissan thermostat ($80!), tore it all apart, yet again, and put it in. Et voila! Fixed.   :happydance:  A week on now and no issues, running cool at 90°±2°.
 
A failed stat replaced by two bad ones. That's 3 tstats installed in short order, in total.  Who has luck like that?  :irked:  Did I get two bad Motorad tstats or are all of them bad for this application?  Not sure, but I will never use another.

It would appear that the dash temp gauge, which does move around some, is more placebo than anything.  I watched the gauge vs. the Scangauge II readout and the gauge does not move in lock step with the temp the computer reports to the OBDII scanner.  It wouldn't go above the mid point of the gauge at 110° which to me is wrong - at this temp the A/C will cut-out on warm days to protect the system.  Something to keep in mind.  I have encountered this kind of gauge issue on other vehicles as well. 

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That's pretty crazy. You would think the dealer would have used an OE part but they probably wanted to ship it out quick so just got whatever was fastest locally? I have used motorad t-stats in a few of my cars, only ever had 1 aftermarket fail and that was a Stant, in my 94 pathfinder on hydroline. It got stuck open apparently after the multiple deep water crossings made the temps change rapidly. But right now have an OE one in the Xterra, it weighs probably double that of the aftermarket ones!

I messed up my ankle/foot somehow last week, so spent most of the weekend on the couch, but went and fired up the old wd21 on Sunday as I was feeling better. Putting insurance back on it this week and if all goes well I'll swap the gas tank out next weekend, then take it for a cruise.
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Worked on my brother's frontier this past weekend, narrowed down a PS leak to the high pressure hose, have that on order now.

Xterra wouldn't start yesterday in the rain, checked under the hood and the bolts holding the cap down were loose! Had to let it dry out till today before it would fire.
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Adam wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:15 pmThat's pretty crazy. You would think the dealer would have used an OE part 

 
Right?!?!???  WTH?  I did not let them troubleshoot, I asked for a stat replace only so maybe this was punishment for not getting to charge out a diagnosis, idk.  Regardless, a pita.

Still running great.
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Bow_Tied wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 1:00 pm
Adam wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 10:15 pmThat's pretty crazy. You would think the dealer would have used an OE part 


 
Right?!?!???  WTH?  I did not let them troubleshoot, I asked for a stat replace only so maybe this was punishment for not getting to charge out a diagnosis, idk.  Regardless, a pita.

Still running great.

 
I feel like for not in warranty vehicles they never actually use oem parts. @morpheus care to comment? lol

Got my power steering line in for the frontier so excited to get that on this weekend. Missed out on a sweet 77 c20 camper special with the big block 454... Almost bought it sight unseen from Saskatchewan!
 
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Adam wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 8:22 pm
Bow_Tied wrote: Sat May 06, 2023 1:00 pm

Right?!?!???  WTH?  I did not let them troubleshoot, I asked for a stat replace only so maybe this was punishment for not getting to charge out a diagnosis, idk.  Regardless, a pita.

Still running great.


 
I feel like for not in warranty vehicles they never actually use oem parts. @morpheus care to comment? lol

Got my power steering line in for the frontier so excited to get that on this weekend. Missed out on a sweet 77 c20 camper special with the big block 454... Almost bought it sight unseen from Saskatchewan!
 

 
That 454 would likely had north of 400lb.ft of torque.  A real stump puller.
 
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Bow_Tied wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 7:52 pm
Adam wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 8:22 pm
I feel like for not in warranty vehicles they never actually use oem parts. @morpheus care to comment? lol

Got my power steering line in for the frontier so excited to get that on this weekend. Missed out on a sweet 77 c20 camper special with the big block 454... Almost bought it sight unseen from Saskatchewan!
 


 
That 454 would likely had north of 400lb.ft of torque.  A real stump puller.
 

 
Yeah, it looked real clean too. My grandfather had a 77-80 squarebody and I have been looking for one for a while.

Got the PS line in on the frontier, worked for a bit then found another leak on the pump where the hose barb bolts in... Frig! Just what I needed before going to NY this weekend. Got the xterra going into the shop for the exhaust tomorrow...
 
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Last night I heard some weird noises coming from the lifted Xterra when I was driving around. Rotational, but sounded like something dragging on the ground. Couldn't see anything with a quick glance so that'll be fun. Also still have to replace the weeping copper brake line I installed on the rear left not even 2 years ago! @Bow_Tied do you use that stuff or the green coated steel lines?
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I've only ever used standard brake line:|

Is the line itself leaking or is at a fitting?  
 
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Bow_Tied wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:26 pm I've only ever used standard brake line:|

Is the line itself leaking or is at a fitting?  
 

 
It’s leaking from what appears to be 1/4” from the fitting at the wheel cylinder. It’s also a brand new wheel cylinder. When I changed that last year the line had already seized itself to the brake line nut.
 
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Sounds like a bad line. 😕
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Bow_Tied wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:47 am Sounds like a bad line. 😕

 
Yep, gonna replace it with the coated steel one.
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Finally getting around to tackling this brake line. Apparently the copper lines aren't easily removed after being on for a bit. If anyone uses them be prepared to have to cut/flare the end on again (if you have enough line) or replace the whole thing if you have to change a caliper or wheel cylinder. The line was seized into the tube nut. Left an extra few inches this time so I can just re flare it if it happens again.
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Got an alignment yesterday, found a guy who would do what I wanted and not just "factory specs". Got the camber as close to 0 and the toe set right. The caster he set as much as it would go without screwing up the 0 camber, and equal on both sides, but he couldn't set it with the machine because apparently my wheels block the sensors on their machine when doing a sweep LOL. Drives pretty nice and I look forward to using the inner half of my tires... :woot: I got these specs from: https://www.clubxterra.org/threads/lift ... rs.146665/

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1) Camber: 0 degrees or as close as possible
2) Caster: Maximum caster on passenger side while maintaining zero camber. Adjust driver side caster to be slightly less while maintaining zero camber.
3) Toe In: 0.33 degrees or 0.16 inches of total toe in.

 

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Not to my rig, but I started welding the frame repair panels onto my parents F-150, same gen as @Morpheus

Thing is worse than any wd21 I ever welded together, only has 150k on it but it sits around at lot. Weekend home depot run truck.

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Adam wrote:Not to my rig, but I started welding the frame repair panels onto my parents F-150, same gen as [smention u=64]Morpheus[/smention]

Thing is worse than any wd21 I ever welded together, only has 150k on it but it sits around at lot. Weekend home depot run truck.

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Wow. Do they spray it for winter? Krown etc


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Greased my leaf pack eyelets, only maintenance I needed this year.
 
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Adam wrote:Not to my rig, but I started welding the frame repair panels onto my parents F-150, same gen as @Morpheus

Thing is worse than any wd21 I ever welded together, only has 150k on it but it sits around at lot. Weekend home depot run truck.


 
Wow. Do they spray it for winter? Krown etc


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No, but they should have... Still crazy for the low mileage it has.
 
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PhullD wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:54 pm Greased my leaf pack eyelets, only maintenance I needed this year.
 

 
So much easier when it isn't your daily, eh?
 
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